We accepted that at the time and added contents and legal expenses insurance for a reasonably small extra annual premium.
Subsequently the UK insurance was taken over or at least altered its name to MORE TH>N ("More Than").
We carried on paying annual premiums from all those years back and at some stage at the insurer's request started using direct debits. Indeed this arrangement continued until last month when we received the statement of the proposed insurance premium for 2018. This surprised me so I telephoned the company. Correspondence then followed on which see below:
Dear Sir or Madam
Upon receiving our annual renewal quotation from More Than
Insurance which is part of Royal Sun Alliance we were at first,
presently surprised to find that it had gone down from £1,432.71p pa to £565.20
pa.
Upon reflecting however I ... telephoned to query why the
difference between the two figures as we have made no claims for years nor any
changes. Why was last years figure so large?
The gentleman I spoke with was quite frank - he did not know nor could
he understand why there was that vast difference and promised to look into it
and call me back although he said that that could take time. Meanwhile the
insurance renewal at the new lower rate would go ahead. While holding the
line, I checked one or two of our old bank statements and found that we have
been substantially overcharged by MoreThan for some time. In
the more recent years, the over charging, is as high as 4 figure
annual amounts, for your household insurance, representing thousands of
pounds.
Your representative in answer to my specific question,
confirmed that you never charged long standing policy holders such as us, more
than new policy - holders, unlike some companies.
After putting the phone down I secured a quote from Direct Line
for annual cover for £189.28p as follows:
Building cover £1m Contents cover £83,600 including laptops etc
outside the home plus bicycle up to £500
Policy excess between £250 (eg water escape) and £1000
(subsidence)
Includes accidental cover and damaged boiler and for another £26.88
legal advice and costs up to £100,000.
The Direct Line also offered a slightly pricier quote of £333.76 pa for
eg unlimited buildings insurance above £1m with higher contents insurance and
eg bicycles worth up to £1000 but still far far cheaper than what we have been
paying More Than.
I also secured an online quote from your company which again was far
cheaper than anything we have been paying you which at best is absurd and
grossly wrong.
Your annual insurance renewal states specifically that:
"...We have gone to great lengths to ensure your cover offers you
comprehensive protection and great value for money..."
This wording which in the absence of an honest explanation from
you now, would be quite false, was the same in your renewal letter to us dated
12th January 2017. The premium details in the latter, also shockingly
state that the premium is £1,838.39 but that you gave discounts of £405.71p. In
common parlance, that too appears to be an appalling swindle.
For years we have assumed that MoreThan was a trustworthy organisation
so i do not use lightly phrases like "false wording" or
words like "swindle" in this email.
Nonetheless going back to as long ago as 2011 and checking
the premiums from old bank accounts, I conclude that you have
over charged us by thousands of pounds for our insurance. Earlier bank
details may even reveal that this over charging has taken place for even
longer- please verify from your own records.
I have also come across an article in the Guardian Newspaper
relevant details of which state:
"....Customers are told at renewal that they are, once again,
enjoying a “competitive” deal with “great value” insurance. But when an insurer
claims this while charging £700 for a policy that costs £150 somewhere else,
it’s a lie. And under the Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations
2008, deliberate mis-selling like this is a criminal offence...."
As our complaints now appear far more serious than seemed initially to
be the case when I telephoned your representative I checked your
published complaints procedure. That states:
We aim to resolve your concerns informally, within
three business days. Where we have been able to, we will send you a letter
confirming this. We’ll also explain how you may be able to refer the matter to
the Financial Ombudsman Service if you subsequently decide that
you're unhappy with the outcome.
Therefore in addition to my telephone conversation with your
representative, which I was pleased to learn was recorded by you, we are now
using your published complaints procedure as this gives a 3 day
resolution period.
Please respond to these complaints without delay.
Your faithfully
Then on 23rd January 2018 I received a telephone call from MoreThan on which my letter to the company typed immediately afterwards reads:
Dear Sir
MoreThan
Insurance Policy Number ... – Complaint
Enclosed is a copy of the
email complaint of the insured dated 19th January 2018, which
despite the MoreThan promise generally to answer within 3 days has not so far
been answered or even acknowledged.
Your representative who I
telephoned on the 19th January telephoned me back today to say that
the £565.20p renewal quote was a mistake and
that your company’s previous years’ four figure quotes, were correct.
This I told him is absurd as
even your own company quotes substantially lower figures to me online for the
same property. He could not explain further but, having previously emphasised
that your company unlike others does not charge new customers less than existing
customers, made plain to me that MoreThan’s insistence that the 4 figure sums
we have been paying for insurance, are correct is with respect fraudulent.
My own tests of your company
and others for the same or better insurance quotes on line show that the true
cost should be about £200 or £300 pa. In essence therefore unless you can show
me good reason to the contrary I complain of huge over charging and fraud.
Please let me have your full
reply within 3 days and if you continue to claim that the £1,500 or so we have
been paying annually for years for our domestic insurance is correct please
confirm – we will then take the matter to the insurance ombudsman.
Yours faithfully
The next development was a letter from MoreThan saying that they would review the matter and respond by the 15th February 2018.
I await the next word from MoreThan but have lost trust in that company so telephoned them and noted as follows:
I telephoned MoreThan and cancelled the policy and DD wef
14/02/2018 speaking with a Mr lee Mason at 14:58 – he was sympathetic to the
background but could say nothing more.
Insurance was then taken out with Direct Line on rather better terms for the same property for an annual premium of £325 ie over £1000 lower than the purportedly correct annual premium of MoreThan.
Something most odd is going on which I trust will be explained very soon by MoreThan.
If MoreThan is correct and I am mistaken, details and an apology will be posted on this blog but will they apologise and repay over-paid premiums, if I am, right?
We wait and see.
If MoreThan is correct and I am mistaken, details and an apology will be posted on this blog but will they apologise and repay over-paid premiums, if I am, right?
We wait and see.
I await an update to this tale with interest!
ReplyDeleteTX RachRunner - no response yet though they have a few more days. I will post an update then.
ReplyDeleteI see you are a marathon runner; fantastic to finish (London Marathon) though my PB was still over 4hrs.
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ReplyDeleteMoreThan's letter of 23rd January stated that they were allowed 8 weeks to handle a complaint "which means that we have until 15 February to provide you with a final response to our concerns."
ReplyDeleteIn fact the 8 weeks in question expires on the 15th March but no apology for its error or explanation if indeed there is no error has (yet) been provided by the company.
MoreThan deny acting wrongfully so the matter is this week, being referred to the Financial Ombudsman for determination.
ReplyDeleteFinancial Ombudsman reports that the issue is still be being investigated carefully but that they will be in touch again asap.
ReplyDeleteStill waiting RachRunner; though the Financial Ombudsman has promised a response by Christmas.
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